My impression is that once we didn’t want to call jails for containers to differentiate them to jails’ advantage: they’re essentially more secure. They’re not just containers (if your frame of reference is Linux).
But since containers have become such a hype in our global infrastructure, and people are seeking off the big cloud platforms, perhaps it is more in FreeBSD’s interest to remind off-clouders that FreeBSD does have container technology.
Man Allan Jude is a name I haven't heard in awhile. I was a big fan of Jupiter Broadcasting back around ~2013-2015, and I used to listen to "BSD Now", even though I didn't run BSD. Kind of sad how nuts Bryan Lunduke and to a lesser extent Chris Fisher have gone, since I used to love listening to all their shows while driving to and from work.
Anyway, when I ran FreeNAS in 2015, I certainly thought of Jails as containers, and I thought of them as roughly analogous to Docker. I always thought of both of them as "light VMs", `chroot` on steroids is not a terrible way to put it, as the article pointed out. They both share their host kernels and have lower overhead than something like QEMU or bhyve or Xen. I guess Docker feels a bit more declarative, but that seems more like a layer on top of the underlying tech of cgroups and whatnot than anything else.
I'm no one and no one cares about what I say, but social media is a nice play to write about my own thoughts.
I wonder if in the future people will learn about thinkers' thoughts from their media postings, and cite their communications on papers and wikipedia, similar to how old letters are considered primary sources for great thinkers thoughts.
My impression is that once we didn’t want to call jails for containers to differentiate them to jails’ advantage: they’re essentially more secure. They’re not just containers (if your frame of reference is Linux).
But since containers have become such a hype in our global infrastructure, and people are seeking off the big cloud platforms, perhaps it is more in FreeBSD’s interest to remind off-clouders that FreeBSD does have container technology.
Man Allan Jude is a name I haven't heard in awhile. I was a big fan of Jupiter Broadcasting back around ~2013-2015, and I used to listen to "BSD Now", even though I didn't run BSD. Kind of sad how nuts Bryan Lunduke and to a lesser extent Chris Fisher have gone, since I used to love listening to all their shows while driving to and from work.
Anyway, when I ran FreeNAS in 2015, I certainly thought of Jails as containers, and I thought of them as roughly analogous to Docker. I always thought of both of them as "light VMs", `chroot` on steroids is not a terrible way to put it, as the article pointed out. They both share their host kernels and have lower overhead than something like QEMU or bhyve or Xen. I guess Docker feels a bit more declarative, but that seems more like a layer on top of the underlying tech of cgroups and whatnot than anything else.
BSD Now still exists and they now have over 600 episodes. It's no longer with Jupiter Broadcasting though. I've been listening since episode 1. =)
Alan is no longer a host but does appear occasionally though. If you want to hear one of Alans other active Podcasts check out: "2.5 Admins"
https://www.bsdnow.tv/ https://2.5admins.com/
This feels like arguing about semantics for arguments' sake.
I had people fight me on this twice on HN and reddit. Although I often contended that containers are virtualization, which is what brought pushback.
I'm a bit lazy to dig it up. But if a stalker wants to feel free to dig it up.
> I'm a bit lazy to dig it up. But if a stalker wants to feel free
I guess I'll be the stalker
https://hn.algolia.com/?query=TZubiri%20virtualization&type=...
Nice thanks.
I'm no one and no one cares about what I say, but social media is a nice play to write about my own thoughts.
I wonder if in the future people will learn about thinkers' thoughts from their media postings, and cite their communications on papers and wikipedia, similar to how old letters are considered primary sources for great thinkers thoughts.
I have used Jails in the past, and whatever they are I still think Jails are more secure then Linux's container of the day.